Second class for Ranger - Guild Wars Forums

egotise · Sep 02, 2005, 10:53 PM // 22:53

Hey.

I've got a friend who has just brought Guild wars.
He hasn't played it yet but he knows he wants to use
a ranger.

I am asking in his place:

what do you think is the best secondary class for a ranger?

He is fond of having a pet, so in that case, what is the best
for keeping your pet in good shape.

I considered monk,

what do you guys think?

Kobun King · Sep 02, 2005, 11:01 PM // 23:01

If you want to keep your pet in shape, there's already a number of ranger skills that will keep him healthy, such as call of protection, comfort animal, etc., so there's not a demanding reason to base your secondary profession around your pet just to keep him alive, although you still could.

Kamatsu · Sep 03, 2005, 12:47 AM // 00:47

The thing is, unless you plan on a specialized build that requires the use of skills froma secondary classs.. you'll find that you'll end up using mainly ranger skills anyways. So second class is pretty irrelevant - at least to someone new to the game.

Personally I'd say take Monk purely because of the unlimited rez ability as well as helpful healing support he might make use of - the thing tho is if he wants to be able to attack while also using a few pets skills.. he won't have any space on his skill bar for anything apart from say 1 monk skill..

Like my R/Mo has 2 marksmen attack skills, 1 preperation, charm animal, comfort animal, resurrect, Call of Haste & Call of Protection. That gives me 2 attack skills for me, 1 preperation which helps add to my damage while letting me have my pet with me with skills which help the pet attack harder & faster while being able to "tank" better... and lets me rez stupid henchies unlimited times when they die

I don't have room for any other skills for healing or such...

Some might say my build is terrible *shrugs* It works for me and let me get the job done.. and thats what's important to me. I have my fun

But my point is.. if your friend wants to be able to attack with ranger skills as well as utilize his pet.. he won't really end up using his secondary class's skills much.. so better of going Monk for rez.. You can always change the secondary after ascension anyways...

ayb · Sep 03, 2005, 12:50 AM // 00:50

monk so you can have a reusable res. you dont have the mp to make much use of out ele or necro for a secondary.

Wolven Fang · Sep 03, 2005, 01:21 AM // 01:21

I just got it today and I chose Elementalist! It is really good for range and works great with pets! You attack from afar with Power Shot, Lightning Javalin and Fire Storm while your pet distracts enemies and it helps you when they get close to you.

Seissor · Sep 03, 2005, 02:37 AM // 02:37

Ranger/Monk. A ranger with rez is very usefull, also alot of smiting attacks can be used by rangers and they tend to get the job done.

ayb · Sep 03, 2005, 02:50 AM // 02:50

also with monk or elementalist you can chain damage modifiers on barrage, an elite ranger bow attack that will shoot at up to 6 targets around your primary target. it removes all preparations (apply poison, etc) but you can use it with conjure *insert element here* or judge's insight.

Jhyphi · Sep 03, 2005, 03:01 AM // 03:01

Ranger/Mesmer!

Of course I'm biased. Hehe. Personally, if it was just ranger skills, I'd have gotten bored a long time ago. Mesmer is just a really fun and interesting class to play.

Necro might be fun and then your friend can build an entire army of pets/minions which he sems to enjoy.

Mark Twain · Sep 03, 2005, 03:03 AM // 03:03

go ranger/mesmer. very good pvp combo. he might enjoy it

Amei Leng · Sep 03, 2005, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Ive made a few rangers, figured out its a better secondary than primary.
<------ My Warrior/Rnager works the best for me

egotise · Sep 06, 2005, 03:52 PM // 15:52

Thank you all very much for your helpful information.

I passed this page on to him~

Stormfall · Sep 06, 2005, 04:14 PM // 16:14

I'm not exactly a "hardcore gamer" who knows everything about everything in Guild Wars, so don't take my words for gospel truth (and anyone who sees me making an error, please feel free to correct me), but my own observations have been this:

Ranger/Elementalist: Combined with "Conjure X" (X = Fire, Frost, Lightning), this pairing is great for dishing out long-range damage against single foes, or multiple targets using the ranger Elite Skill "Barrage" (as one poster already mentioned).

Ranger/Monk: Rangers tend to hang back from battle, so they're in a better position than, say, warriors to help heal up the party during combat. Rangers could also find a good use for Smiting and Protection spells (especially to enhance offensive power)

Ranger/Mesmer: Great for interrupting and Energy drain, if you plug in the right skills. This combo is a caster's nightmare in PvP.

Ranger/Necromancer: I don't know too much about this one, but it seems to be popular. It might be neat to pump up Death Magic and create an army of undead to help out a pet ^_^ Cursing from long range can also help your offensive power (by decreasing your enemies' defenses)

Ranger/Warrior: If you use this combo for melee, prepare to be flamed >_> Rightly or wrongly, I'm not sure yet. I myself have been thinking about a "pure ranger" (with all attribute points plugged into Ranger stats) with a warrior secondary. This is because a lot of warrior skills are kind of useless for a long-range attacker; BUT! The warrior skill "Frenzy" can increase your attack rate with a cheaper Energy cost and faster recycle time than "Lightning Reflexes" and no need to devote any attribute points to increase its effectiveness. The only drawback is double damage, but if you're hanging back I don't know that many people will target you. It's not exactly a very complex build idea that's executed with as much of a flourish as other concepts out there, but theoretically it'd do the trick ^_^

Xonic · Sep 06, 2005, 04:49 PM // 16:49

I found mesmer a good 2nd profession for me. distracting shot + mesmer interruption/shutdown skills = one mean damage dealer with very good ability to interrupt casters.

Sep 02, 2005, 10:53 PM // 22:53	#1
egotise Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: N/Mo	Second class for Ranger Hey. I've got a friend who has just brought Guild wars. He hasn't played it yet but he knows he wants to use a ranger. I am asking in his place: what do you think is the best secondary class for a ranger? He is fond of having a pet, so in that case, what is the best for keeping your pet in good shape. I considered monk, what do you guys think?

Sep 06, 2005, 04:49 PM // 16:49	#13
Xonic Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	I found mesmer a good 2nd profession for me. distracting shot + mesmer interruption/shutdown skills = one mean damage dealer with very good ability to interrupt casters. Last edited by Xonic; Sep 06, 2005 at 04:51 PM // 16:51..

Sep 02, 2005, 11:01 PM // 23:01	#2
Kobun King Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005	If you want to keep your pet in shape, there's already a number of ranger skills that will keep him healthy, such as call of protection, comfort animal, etc., so there's not a demanding reason to base your secondary profession around your pet just to keep him alive, although you still could.

Sep 03, 2005, 12:47 AM // 00:47	#3
Kamatsu Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Location: Australia	The thing is, unless you plan on a specialized build that requires the use of skills froma secondary classs.. you'll find that you'll end up using mainly ranger skills anyways. So second class is pretty irrelevant - at least to someone new to the game. Personally I'd say take Monk purely because of the unlimited rez ability as well as helpful healing support he might make use of - the thing tho is if he wants to be able to attack while also using a few pets skills.. he won't have any space on his skill bar for anything apart from say 1 monk skill.. Like my R/Mo has 2 marksmen attack skills, 1 preperation, charm animal, comfort animal, resurrect, Call of Haste & Call of Protection. That gives me 2 attack skills for me, 1 preperation which helps add to my damage while letting me have my pet with me with skills which help the pet attack harder & faster while being able to "tank" better... and lets me rez stupid henchies unlimited times when they die I don't have room for any other skills for healing or such... Some might say my build is terrible shrugs It works for me and let me get the job done.. and thats what's important to me. I have my fun But my point is.. if your friend wants to be able to attack with ranger skills as well as utilize his pet.. he won't really end up using his secondary class's skills much.. so better of going Monk for rez.. You can always change the secondary after ascension anyways...

Sep 03, 2005, 12:50 AM // 00:50	#4
ayb Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: WTS SOUL PST Guild: Order of the Fly Profession: Mo/R	monk so you can have a reusable res. you dont have the mp to make much use of out ele or necro for a secondary.

Sep 03, 2005, 01:21 AM // 01:21	#5
Wolven Fang Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: N/A Profession: R/E	I just got it today and I chose Elementalist! It is really good for range and works great with pets! You attack from afar with Power Shot, Lightning Javalin and Fire Storm while your pet distracts enemies and it helps you when they get close to you.

Sep 03, 2005, 02:37 AM // 02:37	#6
Seissor Jungle Guide Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Squiggilyville. Population: Me. Guild: [oRly] Hello Kitty Death Squad Profession: R/Me	Ranger/Monk. A ranger with rez is very usefull, also alot of smiting attacks can be used by rangers and they tend to get the job done.

Sep 03, 2005, 02:50 AM // 02:50	#7
ayb Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: WTS SOUL PST Guild: Order of the Fly Profession: Mo/R	also with monk or elementalist you can chain damage modifiers on barrage, an elite ranger bow attack that will shoot at up to 6 targets around your primary target. it removes all preparations (apply poison, etc) but you can use it with conjure insert element here or judge's insight.

Sep 03, 2005, 03:01 AM // 03:01	#8
Jhyphi Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: R/Me	Ranger/Mesmer! Of course I'm biased. Hehe. Personally, if it was just ranger skills, I'd have gotten bored a long time ago. Mesmer is just a really fun and interesting class to play. Necro might be fun and then your friend can build an entire army of pets/minions which he sems to enjoy.

Sep 03, 2005, 03:03 AM // 03:03	#9
Mark Twain Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Death To Society	go ranger/mesmer. very good pvp combo. he might enjoy it

Sep 03, 2005, 03:53 AM // 03:53	#10
Amei Leng Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Left coast Guild: Sleepless In Cyberspace (SIC)	Ive made a few rangers, figured out its a better secondary than primary. <------ My Warrior/Rnager works the best for me

Sep 06, 2005, 03:52 PM // 15:52	#11
egotise Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Profession: N/Mo	Thank you all very much for your helpful information. I passed this page on to him~

Sep 06, 2005, 04:14 PM // 16:14	#12
Stormfall Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Guild: Makil Astalder [MAR]	I'm not exactly a "hardcore gamer" who knows everything about everything in Guild Wars, so don't take my words for gospel truth (and anyone who sees me making an error, please feel free to correct me), but my own observations have been this: Ranger/Elementalist: Combined with "Conjure X" (X = Fire, Frost, Lightning), this pairing is great for dishing out long-range damage against single foes, or multiple targets using the ranger Elite Skill "Barrage" (as one poster already mentioned). Ranger/Monk: Rangers tend to hang back from battle, so they're in a better position than, say, warriors to help heal up the party during combat. Rangers could also find a good use for Smiting and Protection spells (especially to enhance offensive power) Ranger/Mesmer: Great for interrupting and Energy drain, if you plug in the right skills. This combo is a caster's nightmare in PvP. Ranger/Necromancer: I don't know too much about this one, but it seems to be popular. It might be neat to pump up Death Magic and create an army of undead to help out a pet ^_^ Cursing from long range can also help your offensive power (by decreasing your enemies' defenses) Ranger/Warrior: If you use this combo for melee, prepare to be flamed >_> Rightly or wrongly, I'm not sure yet. I myself have been thinking about a "pure ranger" (with all attribute points plugged into Ranger stats) with a warrior secondary. This is because a lot of warrior skills are kind of useless for a long-range attacker; BUT! The warrior skill "Frenzy" can increase your attack rate with a cheaper Energy cost and faster recycle time than "Lightning Reflexes" and no need to devote any attribute points to increase its effectiveness. The only drawback is double damage, but if you're hanging back I don't know that many people will target you. It's not exactly a very complex build idea that's executed with as much of a flourish as other concepts out there, but theoretically it'd do the trick ^_^